>>1390223 The planet will keep on turning and evolving. We just won't be part of it. Large asteroids have done much more damage than our nuclear arsenal could. We are just selfish enough to think the world ends when we die, but it doesn't give a fuck about us.
>>1390229 You're being willfully ignorant if you think a giant asteroid would cause more damage than an all out nuclear holocaust would. The only thing left alive if we went all out would be the extreme deep sea.
>>1390230 So the same as an asteroid that has caused past extinction events? A large enough asteroid would open a hole into the mantle and rain burning earth around the whole planet. Even then the earth will keep on going.
>>1390230 Breh single asteroid have have hit earth with more force than the combined world arsenal of neuclear weapons. And who knows what else as well? Gamma ray bursts might have cause the Permian extinction event as well. The worlds seen some shit
>>1390229 I care what the earth cares about, I care about me and the survival of humanity
>>1390242 Eh, they teach us as young kids in the USA that the USA invented everything and wins everything and can do anything it wants. Like religion the kids become adults and believe the koolaide they drank.
>>1390248 i honestly dont know, the crews have a history of issues. i live in the 406 so we hear about all sorts of silo fuck ups, poor security practices, etc. probably cheap land and being surrounded in the past by no nonsense, not giving a fuck farmers instead of sneaky tweakers and brown nosing out of staters. there is an abandon siloh a friend has gotten into about 50 miles north of the montana purple triangle. they are fucking ancient.
>>1390213 (OP) Shit man, why are so many whacking Kentucky? The only 2 things worth a fuck here are the Jefferson Proving grounds and fucking Fort Campbell. Piss on that, my county almost got nuked but I'm in no way dead. Thank god for CBRD.
>>1390248 In an all-out nukefest, the enemy has finite amounts of ICBMs/Warheads. Goes back to the black dot vs. purple triangle concept.
Black Dot = Pre-emptive strike. The enemy (who are we kidding...Russia) has full nuclear capacity, all 2000 warheads. They want to dump a huge majority of them on the silos in those locations, as it may lessen U.S capability of a counter attack.
Purple Triangles: Retaliation attack. U.S has already hit Moscow and most other populated areas, reducing Russian nuclear capacity. Most of those silos are emptied, so at this point it's pure population density vs. strategic targets.
If they built the majority of those silos next to populated areas V.S buttfuck North Dakota, then that allows the enemy to kill two birds with one stone. If you put the silos out in the middle of nowhere, it forces the enemy to choose one over the other.
>>1390213 (OP) Not at all fucked. The largest nukes available only reach half the distance necessary to reach me. And that's for all effects, ot the blast radius. I'm also about 2000 feet off the Pacific, so wind is in my favor as well.
>>1390269 >That's not true, there was extensive nuclear testing for years 1 bomb, 1 at a time. now drop thousands all over the world at the same time. you will get volcanoes blowing, fault lines rupturing and thats only if we are lucky. the ash in the air blocking out the sun would still kill us
From the top of a bluff near my house I can see the entrance to NORAD, and US Space Command at Peterson AFB, with binoculars. So it's highly unlikely anyone where I live would survive an exchange of nuclear weapons.
>>1390276 I highly doubt a bunch of surface bombs hitting populated areas would generate enough seismic activity to form a volcano, and huge volcanoes have released much more ash than even an all out nuclear war would, and that only ever caused declines in agricultural outputs, never total environmental collapses.
>>1390280 >>1390284 your not thinking on a large enough scale. In an all out nuclear launch scenario there would have enough armaments to destroy the world a few times over. Volcanoes blowing and faults splitting will happen. The ash will send us into another ice age.
Its been a well researched topic since the cold war.
>>1390299 There's no telling what nuke delivery missiles are capable of anymore at the rate we've all been developing. Norad and the like have been known the world over for decades, I'm sure they've got more than a few dedicated nukes for those sites with extra yield and delivery means. I'd say that one is enough because even IF the mountain doesn't collapse, half of it is gonna be molten slag sealing the dumb niggers inside.
>>1390219 Course you are fucked. Just more slowly.
In the best case of that map only 500 war heads would be deployed. (The triangles)
In that event nuclear winter would set in and ALL OF HUMANITY would starve and die not to mention that those in the triangles would either die from the initial blast or with in a month from radiation poisoning.
>>1390223 I don't know about that. But I do know that if some country did decide to nuke another, the rest of the country would tear them apart. There is no way they would get away with it. Sure, NK could kill millions of us here in the US. But they would instantly be greeted with bombs and total annihilation by the US. Also China did say that they would take sides with the country that was attacked. If nuclear war does happen, I know it will be NK who shot first, meaning the US and China would easily destroy that fucking tiny country.
I mean fuck, dude. We're talking about the US here. This is the same fucking country that's always being mocked and ridiculed by everyone for spending trillions of our tax dollars in military more than in education and food. My fucking tax dollars being stripped away for bullshit like that better fucking pay off when it needs to or else I'm gonna be pissed.
But again, we're at a point right now where literally every country is on thin ice with multiples whilst also being allies with others. Nobody can do shit without pissing off multiple militaries that are just as equipped if not more. We are kinda safe for now.
>>1390319 >Nope Radiation does not care how deep the water is. In fact the Fukishima reactors are probably ravaging most of the Pacific Ocean as we sit here.
radiation is not some omnipotent force, it is energetic particles. those particles have mass and as such they can be diluted. The relatively low amount of radiation released by the Fukushima plant into the pacific ocean is so diluted that its not even affecting the fish caught ~100 miles from the site.
>>1390233 Military industrial complexes, factories, military bases, communication centers, population centers, transportation centers, government offices, anything that might help people survive. These are just for starters.
>>1390322 i doubt it would be that long, but even if it is that is a tiny amount of time geologically speaking. mountains form and erode over the course of hundreds of millions of years. A few hundred will be little more than a blip.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't the USA have satellites that can track and shoot down incoming missiles before they even enter US territory? This is a country that spends more money in military than any other country on the planet. Surely nuking them wouldn't be that easy, right?
>>1390319 You are so wrong it's hard to comprehend it. Water is a fantastic radiation shield. Even a few tens of feet of water will stop nearly all the radiation you can conceive of. Only super high energy cosmic shit will go through that.
>>1390344 Thousands of incoming warheads would just be retarded though. Surely you don't have to be a scientist to realize how that would kill the entire planet. Then again, if you're a politician, chances are you are retarded anyway. So yeah, we're probably fucked.
>>1390350 It's almost like having all the material concentrated in one place is different from having it strewn about the countryside by a detonation.
Trying to make any argument that compares anything from a reactor to anything from a bomb is inherently flawed. They are vastly different systems and behave in different ways. People just hear the word "nuclear" and think it's all alike.
>>1390213 (OP) No problems in my state Got plenty of freeze dried food Lots of stored water Guns, bullets and a protected place to retreat too Unfortunately it's just me, no woman If the whole place goes crazy on my way to bug out I might grab a couple of young ladies, after a while they might be grateful enough that I can let them out of their cage I did mess up a bit, accidentally ordered,, no refunds, 1500 gallons of dehydrated eggs, don't really like eggs they give the shits and really bad gass, I will probably feed them to the breeding stock I catch when the SHTF
>>1390213 (OP) You're all fuckin stupid. Anyone who survives the first blasts will suffer radiation sickness for weeks and months, finally perishing in the following nuclear winter when no food can grow.
The longer we wait to start ww3, the worse it will be since information and technology only increases in entropy.
With Elon Musk racing to create cheap warheads, the effects of ww3 will become more and more devastating.
Whites stopped spreading in the 1800s as marked by Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
The end of the spread of white anglo saxons was the most dangerous thing that the world could have experienced.
Why? Because white Anglo Saxons must have a king to rule them and tell them what to do, otherwise they are genius engineers and warriors who will whore themselves out for profit. This in turn unknowingly engineers their own genocide. Anglos have spread their warrior and engineering knowledge throughout the world creating a giant powder keg that's just waiting to explode.
>>1390213 (OP) Super fucked. Gonna glow in the dark if shit goes down. Originally I had no idea why so many nukes were aimed at my flyover of a city but I did some reading and apparently it's because I 70, I 35, and I 29 all meet here. Oh well I'd rather die in the initial blast than live long enough to starve to death.
>>1390361 No problems in your state except for fallout, nuclear winter, a huge influx of starving diseased irradiated refugees, and if you hide soul crushing loneliness. Collecting survival gear and supplies is just basically collecting a bunch of shit for the first gang of mad max style rapists to find you. Even if you have all the guns in the world you are just one guy. If you do hide in a bunker by yourself you will be hanging from the rafters in a couple of years. After exposure, thirst and hunger loneliness is the biggest killer of people in survival situations.
>>1390213 (OP) I just hope it's not over the summer when I'm living with my folks in SLC, if we make it to August with no nukings I can escape back to college in the middle of buttfuck nowhere and hopefully survive slightly longer.
>>1390380 I really am convinced that nuclear bombs in todays age are used as nothing more than just tools of fear. I mean come on, this entire thread is full of people who know how fucking dumb it would be to use nukes because of the potential they have to destroy all life on earth. If a bunch of nobodies on the internet are smart enough to realize that, I'm sure these world leaders have people smart enough to know that too.
Or maybe they don't care, like you said they're all a bunch of egomaniacal cocksuckers. So who the fuck knows?
I think youre wrong. It was originally called 'star wars' from the reagan administration. They have been trying to get that to work. I think thats something that if they had it, they would openly boast about it. Or even if they didn't they would try to give the illusion they did.
>>1390306 Yeah, if a nuke hits anywhere near the entrance they aren't getting out. I'm sure they would be more than happy to descend into a gay porno existence and buttfuck eachother for the rest of their lives.